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  • Hey Cora, Please,thank your sailor for her service! My son thinks he'd rather be in a Squadron if he gets a chance to pick. Johns recruiter was an AO and was attached to squadron and explained all the ups and downs of both. He's got to get through all his training first. He ships out to BC in six days(26th)!!
  • My Sailor prefers to be on Land and assigned to a Squadron (Which she is) she is about to deploy for 6 months and not looking forward to it as she has a tough job on the flight deck and knows she has her work cut out for her!! She takes her job very seriously and she is home on leave right now and its almost time for her to go back and she wants to stay home with the family and knows she has no choice. I think she is already getting homesick!!
  • any aviation rate i.e. AD, AO, AT, AME, AM AE, etc. can be assigned to either a squadron, or a ship. there are two functional working levels in naval aviation. Intermediate level (I Level) or Operations level (O level) 99% of I level airdales will either be assigned to a ship or, on shore duty, a maintenance workcenter working as a technician on aviation related gear (i.e. AD I level works on the Gas Turbine Engines that naval aircraft use.). Being assigned to a ship (ships company) simply means that you go where the ship goes. period. O level on the other hand is what 100% of squadron assigned airdales will work. These are the guys and gals who work with the actual aircraft. be it Jets, Props, or Helos. Squadrons are attached to Carrier Air Groups, or CAG. usually between 2 and 5 squadrons to a CAG. When the carrier in the CAG deploys, those squadrons go with it, bringing along all the squadron personnel. where ships company goes with the ship, squadron personnel stay with the aircraft. but to answer your question when finished with his technical training, your son will be a rated AO and he can get orders to either a ship or a squadron, but will most likely go to a squadron. (which is where he wants to be. he'll get the best of both worlds. my son is an AD in Strike Fighter Squadron 31 out of Oceana Naval Air Station in Oceana, Virginia. His squadron maintains 12 F/A-18E Super Hornets, and is part of Carrier Air Wing 8, attached to the Nimitz class nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS George H. W. Bush. He loves it. Hope that answered your question.

    snooky said:
    My son if he gets through BC and A school will be AO rate. Can this rate be assigned to a ship?

    MarkM said:
    In the Navy, Airdales, also know as "brown shoes" are the folks that actually work with the planes in one regard or another. Ship's crew are the folks that run the ship. The airdales are assigned to a particular squadron, not a ship. The squadron gets assigned to various carriers (although usually the same one) for deployments. The airdales go wherever the squadron goes and ship's company (crew) stays with it. There are certain aviation rates that are assigned to a carrier as ship's company, such as air traffic controller. I hope this helps.
  • Correct, his squdron is due to deploy in about a year.

    snooky said:
    Hi, So, your son deploys with the aircraft to the deployment air station than back to duty station?

    Chuck said:
    The duty station is based on the type and kind of aircraft and its operation purpose.

    My son is like Jim's he is assigned to a sqadron of land based aircraft too large for a carrier landing. When they deploy they planes fly to the depolyment air station and the after deployment the planes are flown back to their assigned air staion.

    My son's friend is assigned to a fighter squadron at a Naval Air Station. When they deploy he and the squadron are given orders to report to a carrier and they become part of the "Carrier Air Wing". Upon return from deploment his squadron is then reassigned to a hanger on a Naval Air Staion

    Many sailor do not get a preference. They are assigned where the need exists.
  • Hi, So, your son deploys with the aircraft to the deployment air station than back to duty station?

    Chuck said:
    The duty station is based on the type and kind of aircraft and its operation purpose.

    My son is like Jim's he is assigned to a sqadron of land based aircraft too large for a carrier landing. When they deploy they planes fly to the depolyment air station and the after deployment the planes are flown back to their assigned air staion.

    My son's friend is assigned to a fighter squadron at a Naval Air Station. When they deploy he and the squadron are given orders to report to a carrier and they become part of the "Carrier Air Wing". Upon return from deploment his squadron is then reassigned to a hanger on a Naval Air Staion

    Many sailor do not get a preference. They are assigned where the need exists.
  • The duty station is based on the type and kind of aircraft and its operation purpose.

    My son is like Jim's he is assigned to a sqadron of land based aircraft too large for a carrier landing. When they deploy they planes fly to the depolyment air station and the after deployment the planes are flown back to their assigned air staion.

    My son's friend is assigned to a fighter squadron at a Naval Air Station. When they deploy he and the squadron are given orders to report to a carrier and they become part of the "Carrier Air Wing". Upon return from deploment his squadron is then reassigned to a hanger on a Naval Air Staion

    Many sailor do not get a preference. They are assigned where the need exists.
  • A squadron can spend time at their assigned land air base during time waiting for their assignments. Most become assigned to a carrier air wing and deploy when the carrier group goes out, except for the P-3's as Jim mentioned.
    My son (AW3) is assigned to HS-14 squardon which is assigned to Atsugi Air Base in Japan, and their helo's fly onto the George Washington when they deploy on tour, the rest of the time they work out of Atsugi.
  • Thanks Mark M. I will do that.

    MarkM said:
    Snooky, go to Navy.com and about.com/mil

    There is lots of info for you there. You can look up his rate and get a description of what he will be doing. You can read for hours on those sites. I do all the time.
  • Snooky, go to Navy.com and about.com/mil

    There is lots of info for you there. You can look up his rate and get a description of what he will be doing. You can read for hours on those sites. I do all the time.
  • No, that is a squadron rate.

    snooky said:
    My son if he gets through BC and A school will be AO rate. Can this rate be assigned to a ship?

    MarkM said:
    In the Navy, Airdales, also know as "brown shoes" are the folks that actually work with the planes in one regard or another. Ship's crew are the folks that run the ship. The airdales are assigned to a particular squadron, not a ship. The squadron gets assigned to various carriers (although usually the same one) for deployments. The airdales go wherever the squadron goes and ship's company (crew) stays with it. There are certain aviation rates that are assigned to a carrier as ship's company, such as air traffic controller. I hope this helps.
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