My son shipped off to Great Lakes last week and assuming all goes well during basic training he will be headed to A school in early December. One thing I am unclear on is when his classification as MM, EM or ET, is decided. Is this something he will find out before he leaves Great Lakes or when he arrives at A school? Thanks is advance for the help.
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Post As - our son did not have a college degree - he had a "little" community college experience but I do mean little! The Navy is going to introduce new ways of studying to them and they will do whatever they can to help them pass.....your son just has to take advantage of all the help offered. My son just today finished Power School. The test was actually last week - 12/10 - and he and another 20+ didn't pass....they were given a re-test today and thankfully they ALL passed! He spent about 70 hours in the last week studying for the re-test - and it paid off! For some it's easy, but I know my son puts in a lot of hours - but it's working! I'm so happy today - now it's on to Ballston Spa, NY for Prototype School.
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I am a new Navy Nuke Dad. My son goes to Basic in January, 2014. Do most Navy Nukes have college degrees when they enlist? My son scored really high like the other candidates, but he only attended Community College for a year and a half in non-science/math subjects. But, he does extremely well in academic competitions and test taking. He has always been bored in high school and college and never cared much about grades. Will his non-stellar background be a handicap in the demanding Nuke program?
Raymond, it varies. My son has a non-tech associates degree. He has just started A school, so whether that is a handicap remains to be seen. One of his suite mates is just out of high school. Your son's success will depend less on his past than how he responds to this very new situation. I don't think there is any way to predict that. Bootcamp brought out some( positive) facets of my son's personality that are a bit hard to define and that I didn't know were there. You may be surprised.
Scott - what Jim C. just replied should be correct. Our son had PIR on 12/21/12 and he flew from Chicago home (to Cali) with us because the school was on holiday stand down. Then he reported to GC for school right before the New Year. He of course didn't have leave time accrued but they do let them go in the hole for it. They have plenty of time to earn leave after that. When he graduated A school in April we went out for the ceremony and stayed until Monday and then he & some of his buddies drove to Florida for the rest of the week. At 4th of July he flew home for 4 days.....so he's had leave time with no problem. He's getting ready for Power School grad on 12/13 & he already told us that leave will be either 12/20-1/13 if he is grad n go to New York or 12/20-1/6 if he stays in GC. They will get extra time if it's NY so they can move. AND he did say that it doesn't actually count towards his leave because it has to do with his orders for the next school - I wasn't exactly sure about that, but hey I'm not going to complain. At least he will get to come home for Christmas!
Scott, I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that the phase I, II, or III restrictions apply to liberty, which is different than leave. 'A' school is on stand down 12/20 (16:00) to 1/5, so it's likely that he will be able to go home. Your son will probably not have much leave time accrued, but I believe this command allows them to go negative in their account.
That is same information we have gotten but if they don't complete indoc is their leave restricted to a certain distance from GC? 50 miles? Or will they be able to travel home?
He sent his last letter the day before he met with the classifier so we have to wait until his next letter to find out his rating. He is also hoping for ET
My son's PIR date is also 11/27 and from the last conversation I had with him, he will ship out to Goose Creek on either Friday or Saturday after Thanksgiving and from what he is being told he will likely get leave for two weeks around the end of December, but he doesn't know that for sure yet, or what the dates would be.
On another note, he did meet with the Nuke Classifier and was given the Rating of ET(NUC), so he is excited, now for the hard part, all that schooling.
Another couple of questions from a new nuc dad. My SR's PIR is 11\27 and should be heading to Goose Creek the following weekend. Which puts him there the first part of December. My question is what are his chances of getting leave around Christmas? And how long of a leave could he get? Will he have enough time to complete indoc\phase up before they "shut down" for Christmas?
Thanks for any\all feedback!
As a recently retired Nuke Chief ET, I can tell you that a few weeks before your son's PIR he will be told what the Navy has chosen for him. The selection is based on scores, needs of the Navy and his requests (generally in that order).
Thanks for all the replies. Obviously, as for all Nuke qualified SR's his ASVAB/NAPT scores were pretty good, he did auto qualify for the program when he took his ASVAB. I believe he said his weakest set of scores were in the mechanical section and I know he is hoping for ET, but he is very well aware that it will mostly boil down to the needs of the Navy and he is ok with that. As a parent with an SR at Great Lakes it seems like there is nothing to do but wonder about these issues, I am sure it is farfthest from his mind right now.
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Post As - Definitely have your wife join Navy for Moms - it has been a lifesaver for me! And you are right, you're not losing a son you are gaining a larger extended family.....My son has been in just over a year and he has made some amazing friendships already....and I've made some amazing new friends too!
Good luck to your son!
Post As - our son did not have a college degree - he had a "little" community college experience but I do mean little! The Navy is going to introduce new ways of studying to them and they will do whatever they can to help them pass.....your son just has to take advantage of all the help offered. My son just today finished Power School. The test was actually last week - 12/10 - and he and another 20+ didn't pass....they were given a re-test today and thankfully they ALL passed! He spent about 70 hours in the last week studying for the re-test - and it paid off! For some it's easy, but I know my son puts in a lot of hours - but it's working! I'm so happy today - now it's on to Ballston Spa, NY for Prototype School.
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Raymond, it varies. My son has a non-tech associates degree. He has just started A school, so whether that is a handicap remains to be seen. One of his suite mates is just out of high school.
Your son's success will depend less on his past than how he responds to this very new situation. I don't think there is any way to predict that.
Bootcamp brought out some( positive) facets of my son's personality that are a bit hard to define and that I didn't know were there. You may be surprised.
Scott - what Jim C. just replied should be correct. Our son had PIR on 12/21/12 and he flew from Chicago home (to Cali) with us because the school was on holiday stand down. Then he reported to GC for school right before the New Year. He of course didn't have leave time accrued but they do let them go in the hole for it. They have plenty of time to earn leave after that. When he graduated A school in April we went out for the ceremony and stayed until Monday and then he & some of his buddies drove to Florida for the rest of the week. At 4th of July he flew home for 4 days.....so he's had leave time with no problem. He's getting ready for Power School grad on 12/13 & he already told us that leave will be either 12/20-1/13 if he is grad n go to New York or 12/20-1/6 if he stays in GC. They will get extra time if it's NY so they can move. AND he did say that it doesn't actually count towards his leave because it has to do with his orders for the next school - I wasn't exactly sure about that, but hey I'm not going to complain. At least he will get to come home for Christmas!
Scott, I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that the phase I, II, or III restrictions apply to liberty, which is different than leave. 'A' school is on stand down 12/20 (16:00) to 1/5, so it's likely that he will be able to go home. Your son will probably not have much leave time accrued, but I believe this command allows them to go negative in their account.
He sent his last letter the day before he met with the classifier so we have to wait until his next letter to find out his rating. He is also hoping for ET
Scott,
My son's PIR date is also 11/27 and from the last conversation I had with him, he will ship out to Goose Creek on either Friday or Saturday after Thanksgiving and from what he is being told he will likely get leave for two weeks around the end of December, but he doesn't know that for sure yet, or what the dates would be.
On another note, he did meet with the Nuke Classifier and was given the Rating of ET(NUC), so he is excited, now for the hard part, all that schooling.
Thanks for any\all feedback!
As a recently retired Nuke Chief ET, I can tell you that a few weeks before your son's PIR he will be told what the Navy has chosen for him. The selection is based on scores, needs of the Navy and his requests (generally in that order).
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