wondering if anyone knows who my daughter in law could talk to about her husbands brownbagger?? They have moved to Florida, he lost his brownbagger about three months ago because of him missing a day on base. Her and my 7 month old grand daughter are living in the apartment alone. He comes home for a few hours in the evening but has to return to base by dark... We all live in Texas and she is alone there... Is there someone she can talk to for help on this, or how much longer he has to spend his nights on base??? HELP
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Glad it worked out.... Just curious, I've been around the Navy for along time and I never heard the term "Brownbagger". I that an airdale term? How did it come about?
He missed a day on base, did not call or anything and when he showed up the next day, of course he was in trouble and that is when they pulled his chit to be able to live at home. However, since then he has done everything he should have, he has passed all of his test, moving up in rank. I think the main issue has been, he just has not known who to really talk to about his situation. He was told it would be for a couple of weeks, then he would get it back but he did not want to get into trouble for asking again and again, so he has just let it go.. Now that he is trying to move back home, it has been three months and he is having a hard time getting it done.
Hans, The Old Salt said:
This situation doesn't add up at all to me, and I don't think that your son is being totally forthright with you.
Don't know where in Texas you live, but a weekend drive to Pensacola would be on my agenda, just to scope out the situation in person.
The only person that can take away his liberty that long is the CO. In the Navy we have a tool called EMI that we can use to wake sailors up when they do something wrong. EMI can only last long enough to correct the deficiency (usually 1 week). If his liberty has been suspended for 3 months, somethings wrong. Here is the various tools we can use to wake sailors up. http://www.tpub.com/content/advancement/14145/css/14145_116.htm
Just curious, did he move his wife to Pensacola on his own dime, or did the Navy pay for her to be there? Not that it matters, but I can see someone in his Chain-of-Command saying that AW is a really hard school, and that having his wife their might mess up his focus on becoming an AW.
Secondly, where is he at within his training pipeline? He must be pretty far along if he already knows he's a AWR (Tactical) flying in the new SH-60R.
I hope things work out. I find this whole topic strange, but like EMC(SS) said, she needs to let her voice known.
This is the number to the quarterdeck at his training command and they should be able to direct you to someone that can help you from there.
I do recommend that your daughter-in-law seek some counseling from Fleet and Family Support Center (FFSC) and/or Navy and Marine Corps Relief Society. They can really help set her up for success as a military spouse as it carries a variety of complex burdens that don't exist elsewhere and can guide her on her way. They also provide a constant support system where ever she is stationed and it will benefit her to start a relationship with them now.
I recommend that she gets in contact with the Fleet and Family Support Center. They provide counseling and training on numerous issues ranging from family counseling, budget counseling, life skills classes, education workshops, volunteer opportunities, arrange support groups, job placement and personal counseling.
These resources can be reached by Sailor's or their dependents 24 hours a day anywhere in the world from military one source 1-800-342-9647
"Work and Family Life Workshops
FFSC Work and Family Life Workshops can help you approach the unique challenges of military life with confidence. These workshops are designed to strengthen and enrich individuals and families with the knowledge, skills and support for a healthier lifestyle.
Some of the classes regularly offered by the FFSC include:
Anger Control
Blended Families
Time Management
Dealing w/ Difficult People
Couples Communication
First Time Dad's
Parenting
Stress Management
Speak your Mind!
For more information or to sign up for a class:
"The Ombudsman Program ensures that the lines of communication are open between the Senior Leadership of Commands and the family members in order to resolve problems and relay vital information. The Fleet & Family Support Center (FFSC) is responsible for coordinating the Regional Command Ombudsman Program.
The FFSC Ombudsman Coordinator provides support services to area Ombudsmen and assists them in accessing information and referral when necessary. The Coordinator is also responsible for scheduling and providing semi-annual Ombudsman Training to qualify new Command Ombudsman for assumption of this vital Command role. For more information, contact the FFSC Ombudsman Coordinator.
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Mr. Fleetwood said:
Hans, The Old Salt said:
Don't know where in Texas you live, but a weekend drive to Pensacola would be on my agenda, just to scope out the situation in person.
https://www.cnic.navy.mil/Pensacola/BaseSupport/OmbudsmanProgram/Co...
The only person that can take away his liberty that long is the CO. In the Navy we have a tool called EMI that we can use to wake sailors up when they do something wrong. EMI can only last long enough to correct the deficiency (usually 1 week). If his liberty has been suspended for 3 months, somethings wrong. Here is the various tools we can use to wake sailors up.
http://www.tpub.com/content/advancement/14145/css/14145_116.htm
Just curious, did he move his wife to Pensacola on his own dime, or did the Navy pay for her to be there? Not that it matters, but I can see someone in his Chain-of-Command saying that AW is a really hard school, and that having his wife their might mess up his focus on becoming an AW.
Secondly, where is he at within his training pipeline? He must be pretty far along if he already knows he's a AWR (Tactical) flying in the new SH-60R.
I hope things work out. I find this whole topic strange, but like EMC(SS) said, she needs to let her voice known.
This is the number to the quarterdeck at his training command and they should be able to direct you to someone that can help you from there.
I do recommend that your daughter-in-law seek some counseling from Fleet and Family Support Center (FFSC) and/or Navy and Marine Corps Relief Society. They can really help set her up for success as a military spouse as it carries a variety of complex burdens that don't exist elsewhere and can guide her on her way. They also provide a constant support system where ever she is stationed and it will benefit her to start a relationship with them now.
Good luck,
Very Respectfully,
EMC (SS)
These resources can be reached by Sailor's or their dependents 24 hours a day anywhere in the world from military one source 1-800-342-9647
"Work and Family Life Workshops
FFSC Work and Family Life Workshops can help you approach the unique challenges of military life with confidence. These workshops are designed to strengthen and enrich individuals and families with the knowledge, skills and support for a healthier lifestyle.
Some of the classes regularly offered by the FFSC include:
Anger Control
Blended Families
Time Management
Dealing w/ Difficult People
Couples Communication
First Time Dad's
Parenting
Stress Management
Speak your Mind!
For more information or to sign up for a class:
Education Specialist - (850) 452-5990 ext. 1543"
"The Ombudsman Program ensures that the lines of communication are open between the Senior Leadership of Commands and the family members in order to resolve problems and relay vital information. The Fleet & Family Support Center (FFSC) is responsible for coordinating the Regional Command Ombudsman Program.
The FFSC Ombudsman Coordinator provides support services to area Ombudsmen and assists them in accessing information and referral when necessary. The Coordinator is also responsible for scheduling and providing semi-annual Ombudsman Training to qualify new Command Ombudsman for assumption of this vital Command role. For more information, contact the FFSC Ombudsman Coordinator.
Ombudsman Coordinator:
(850) 452-5990 ext. 3109, DSN: 922"
She needs to get in touch with the command ombudsman through this number. There are generally 1-5 per training command.
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