Navy Nukes

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Comment by mlongst on May 3, 2012 at 9:47am

My son ( MM ) arrived in GC Sunday.  Has a roomate that has been there about 5 weeks.  This helps him  to get acquainted with procedures and a heads up on whats in store.

Comment by KenH on April 30, 2012 at 7:56pm

My son (ET) arrived at GC on Saturday, bought a laptop, made some friends from boot camp, getting settled, preparing for a "big inspection".

Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Comment by Ric Pallson on April 29, 2012 at 7:14pm

Totally agree - most Nuke washouts wash out by being stupid.

Not academically stupid -- just juvenile stupid.

Us dads can help with that -- it's a dad's job to teach our kids the difference between what's just fun and what is really stupid - what we called in my day a CLM -- career limiting move.

As for MM A school being easy -- yeah "this is a wrench -- this the the turbine reduction gear - nothing in your pockets - duct tape all pockets - whoever loses anything in this mechanism will cost the Navy 230 million - secure all tools."

Support your Sailor.

Comment by jeremy mcelroy on April 29, 2012 at 9:37am

A school for an MM is 3 months- pretty much this is a hammer/this is a wrench kinda thing. It is 6 months for an ET or EM and they take the same classes up to the last one where they each take a different class.

Most of the people that don't make it through aren't actually from failing out academically. Lots of people who get in trouble for alcohol related incidents, showing a don't give a crap factor where they are always showing up late or not doing what they are supposed to be doing.

Comment by Ric Pallson on April 28, 2012 at 11:51pm

Seems that A-school is more difficult for the ET's also twice as long.

My daughter was MM and she said A-school was easy-peasy but what William posted shows it's much harder for ET A-school.

Daughter is on second deploy now, was top MM honorman way back at power school grad.  Now that ancient history means nothing. They make the ship move. Always. That's their job and they do it.

About ways to blow it in training -- academic -- get sleep, get help  theres lots of help offered by NAVY  and more if your trainee has managed to make some friends.

Other way to blow it in training is to slack off, do alcohol,drugs, fail to support your shipmates or CoC.

Some of the training failures are recoverable -- at my daughters Power School grad ceremony there were two trainees who were listed on the printed program as E-2. Busted two paygrades and still graduated Power Shool.

No way to go -- but it's possible to recover.

Advice to Sailors in the Nuke program --

Be a mensch - don't be stupid - work hard - ask for the help you deserve - give the help you can.

Your classmates will be your shipmates - the training stress is designed to make the trainee competent - but also to teach them who to trust

Comment by KenH on April 27, 2012 at 9:30pm

Thanks Mike.
Off to Goose Creek tomorrow

Comment by Mike K on April 26, 2012 at 12:13am

Ken, my sailor has been with the fleet for nearly a year and a half now and I remember him saying that those in nuke training are the smartest people he had ever been around.  He also said that they may be smart, but many lack common sense and maturity, and that is where they got themselves into trouble both academically and otherwise.  My sailor said that those that he knew were denuked, about half were for academic reasons and half for other reasons.  His indoc group was required to attend a Captain's mast of a class honorman who was ultimately not only booted out of nuke training but the Navy as well for non academic reasons.  That really opened a lot of eyes.  They really need to understand the need for discipline and focus and they will be fine.  As my sailor said, just don't do anything stupid.

Comment by William in Nashua on April 25, 2012 at 3:15pm

My son's A school section began with 24 and graduated 16.  Nuclear Power School had less attrition his section lost 5 of the original 34.    He is a ET and graduated nuclear power school last month.

Comment by KenH on April 24, 2012 at 8:14pm

Thanks for the reassurance, Jeremy.
Some of the guys on nukeworker.com make it sound more like a long shot.

Comment by jeremy mcelroy on April 24, 2012 at 8:07pm

it really isn't all that difficult as long as you pay attention. oh yeah and tell him to get his rest, definitely doesnt help when you are dozing off in class ( i know from experience =D).

plus nowadays the navy is hurting so bad for nukes that it is very hard to fail out of the program. instructors are pretty much told to get a person through at any cost.

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