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4 The Boyfriend of a Girlfriend in the Navy

The responses

 

So far the feedback I have received to my thoughts has been mixed. Here is the funny thing. The mixed responses I am reading are not between posts but within posts. Put in another way Joes comment does not conflict with Jims, rather Joes conflicts with Joes. For example, The response generally starts off with me being selfish, then concludes by saying some of these things are not easy.

 

I have had no one in my immediate life go through this. This lifestyle is completely foreign to me. I work In a place where everyone comes home from work, and their families sit down for dinner. No one. Men, nor women have spouses living, and working in other places.

 

I am no less comforted by the fact that on military family support websites there are no men in my situation. There are plenty of girlfriends needing to cope but no men.  I saw a couple comments from members on this site asking what to expect. Those were from over a year ago, and those members no longer seems to be active. If the relationship lasted I suspect  there would have been some type of follow ups.

 

This is hard. I realize I focus on my needs, in a union we must share cognizance of each other’s needs. That is not unreasonable.

 

Am I asking what is right for us? No. Only we can decide that for ourselves. As for me I don’t know. I still seek others sharing their experiences to help me decide. Can this enrich our lives? Or is it just not for me?

 

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Pt 4
Soul searching

What is important to us?
When I met her she moved to the city to go to school (a second school for those counting). She later changed her mind, and decided she wanted to join the military. The following are my opinions. I recognize they are my opinions and not fact. Perhaps our opinions right, or wrong are really driving our emotions. But that is a whole different post. She came from a small waning industrial town . This town is famous for its dying economy. I believe the military is fully aware of this. There is no work. Most kids my girlfriend went to school with joined the service. Most if not all of them have returned to that town and continued to exist.
Not my girlfriend she knew in HS she wanted to leave. A culinary institute captured her interest, with an overly priced tuition, and out of town school. Like most kids that age she may not have been fully committed to it and quit. But, this school takes the money before you start. Shes out for a big student loan with little more than a high school education. The military does promise to help out with this.
Now did she join because its in the culture of a dying town to serve? Did she join because it’s the only way to kill these cursed loans? (The paranoid side of me) Did she join because there are many single guys there? Or did she simply join because it was a childhood dream? Im not sure she even knows the answer. For me the answer depends on the day. The killer part is we are apart, so I dwell on these daily.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. This is her life. I choose to be a part of it, just as we choose to be together. I believe the service is positive for many people.. I am also proud of her for having goals. This is the first woman I have been with that actually had an idea of what she wanted. To this day I find her incredibly attractive for that. When she asked what I thought; I told her I would support her decision. If its important to her we could work it out.
Our compromise was the reserves. There was no way I would ever tell a person not to do what they want. The ethics of such a wish is definitely immoral. If I had dissuaded her, she might resent me later. That is a relationship I could not have. I love being in a relationship that we make decisions together.
            Remember, I am fully aware this is an opinion as previously mentioned. In my brief exposure to the military so far, I have decided it is for the poor. My evidence is the current culture of her hometown. And the fact there are few recruiting stations in North Scottsdale, but plenty in South Phoenix. There is no way a person with an education or future without the military would tolerate such treatment, and nonsense. I believe the military DOES provide great opportunity. Over the years I have worked with many people that would not have what they do without it, my father included.
My girlfriend and I do talk about the future, and at times, we have endured each others stinging words. The road has been hard. We are now both being tested through our choices. Are we ready for this? Lets hope so.

 

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1 The Boyfriend of a Girlfriend in the Navy

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Pt 1
I think it is different for Boyfriends or husbands of military folk. We worry about much of the same things in a different way. When you look online moms seem to get the most support, and probably a close tie with wives. There are few of us men with our partners in the service. I think there maybe a stigma that men are supposed to be tough which contributes to the small network of support. That maybe the case, but the small quantity of us is probably the main factor.
I am in week three with her in basic. I write to her about every other day. I still have not gotten a letter in return. This is torture. Everyone in the support communities recognize this. The advice is always the same… When you get a letter, or phone call it will be better. I did receive a phone call last week I appreciated it and it meant the world to me. I have heard so many stories of missing this call, which must be awful. The call did make me feel better, but I am still doing a good job of driving myself nuts despite of it.
This does force me to look at my relationship, and its meaning in a much different way. I am older and my girlfriend is younger.
How many years do I want to live as a surrogate partner?
Will we both appreciate the changes the military does to her as a person?
Men are suppose to provide, why does she want to join?
I have heard horror stories of many degrees about women in “A” school. Wherever you look you can find what you want to hear online. So you pick, and choose the places online you take solace. I enjoy reading what the moms write. Moms are much more positive than most. The worst are men. They say negative and mean things about women serving. Taking both of these into account there is a large spectrum of advice out there. I am not sure if the mom/wife perspective is naive, or the men’s comments are just overly graphic and exaggerated. I’m sure both the women’s and men’s perspectives have some truth to them.
Pt 2
It seems shallow to say it but a military relationship feels like the worst part of being single and the worst part of being in a commitment. You are alone and have limited companionship. But you are committed and bound to one person who is not there.
Fact is you are committed to them but they are not committed in return. Their allegiance is to their branch and our needs come second.
My girl is in boot camp now soon to go to “A” school. I am 37 she is 23. I do not want to be a surrogate lover. I want to be with my partner. Granted she is in the reserves. Don’t discount me for this. I know young couples are experiencing much more challenging obstacles.  For me those weeks and weekends she serves, I want to be for us.
So where do I go with this?
Serious soul searching. I am constantly evaluating what I value as important, including our relationship.
I totally understand the common use of Dear John letters. Are they right, are they wrong? I have mixed feelings on this. Most often its probably what’s  best  for the both of them  In other cases perhaps it was just a hasty decision during a very stressful time.
I am waiting until training passes to make any such decisions.
Pt 3
Men that have served talk about the dark side of “A” school and the women there. This is not comforting to those of us whose women are in training. I know the rhetoric always comes down to trusting them. My relationship is not immune to strife just as the rest of us are not. Shortly before boot camp there was an episode to cause me concern. So, now that is a reality and something I must cope with. 
Trust aside the military must also face the allegations of sexual assault in the military. There are clearly other concerns.

 

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The Letters.
            I have written about every other day, and received no reply. Everyone gets frustrated with this. Im the type of guy to worry about things I have no control over, and not worry about the things I do. I am getting a lot of studying done, but I should be doing much more. Instead, I dwell on my partner being away. I write letters and read posts just like this. I guess I figure if Im getting no letters back I might feel better about reading how other people cope. The answer is obvious, but difficult to follow. “Focus on your work dumb guy!”**  ** (Wording changed by administration. Foul language will not be tolerated.)
            I received a phone call last week. It was great. I’m glad I got it. I have talked to her 100 times on the phone before, but never to replenish weeks of lost bonding. I wanted to hear about her experiences and tell her about mine. I wanted to talk about our feelings for each other too. I thought these were the things we should be talking about. In hindsight I wish we talked about the dumb things we talk about when we are bored, or just laying in bed with nothing to do but share thoughts. I think sharing thought is the right way to put it. The sentences don’t even have to be complete just random exchanges of words and ideas with no particular meaning. In the end the well framed phone conversation felt hollow.
            I acknowledge my impatience is my ruler and my nemesis. Remember when Eric Cartman froze himself to wait for the release of the Wii? That was exactly what I wanted to do. Remember I have written stacks of letters. Just about as wordy as my blog posts. I wrote every other day. NO REPLY. I will say it again, this is brutal. I was at work and a friend of hers posted on facebook they got a letter. I was devastated. I thought, maybe this is like those times we have all done, where someone calls and you just don’t call back. After work I rushed home (Friday afternoon traffic rush mind you). Opened the mailbox. TWO ENVELOPES! Opened both as quickly as I could. One was stubborn and frustrating me. But, I wanted to be careful not to rip anything important like I did on the return address of the form letter. I laid all the letters out. There were four letters per envelope. I figured out where page #1 was and read. These had what I wanted our phone call to sound like natural unscheduled conversation. A steady flow of meandering thoughts. These letters I treasure.
            I have never read a letter of hers before. She has a funny way of describing the challenges they go through. She also does an amazing job describing her days (yeah, I’m biased, what of it?). My letters on the other hand sound much like these posts. I dwell on every thing negative I have no control over.
            An important point. I received the letters the 7th in Phoenix, they were sent the 5thfrom Chicago. 2 days it takes to travel. The letters were dated and 4 letters per envelop. They send these when they are allowed to. They are a privilege. They will send them when they are permitted. It’s a game the military plays to develop separation, and you, a loved one, are the recipient of it. Most soldiers are kids that have never left home. Id be willing to bet if letters flowed any sooner the drop out rate would be very high. Slow delivery is not your loved ones fault, or the mails. The Navy is screwing with you. Like I said previously, the service is for poor people. Rich folk wouldn’t put up with this nonsense.
My advice to all. If you have received no letters and have written many, that one you think might be a little angry put it on your counter. Save it for the final week . If you still feel the need to send it than do so. But that letter has no business being in your loved ones hands on week 2. I did send one. I also, still have one sitting on my counter that I cannot imagine sending now.

 

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First Letter from Boot Camp…

Today I received a letter from my son. It surely made my day! He misses all of us at home and most especially the Bay Area food and the home cooked meals…

 

He talked a little bit about his experiences and the challenges of RTC. It’s hard work; little free time on Sunday’s and will put one’s mind, body and soul to the test of self discovery – what you’re truly made of.

 

Though he hasn’t received any of our letters yet, I wanted to thank all of you at NavyDads.Com for the suggestions about writing a letter to your SR daily or as much as possible. He says letters from home really mean a lot to him!  

 

Despite the grueling training and being away from home, he’s in good spirits! He hasn’t lost his sense of humor. It’s so good to know that he’s hanging tough in there… Hooyah!

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Form Letter from RTC Boot Camp...

Oliver's mom received the form letter today that we've all been waiting for. I gather she’s the lucky one who got the letter and I on the other hand, ended up with the box of his dirty laundry LOL - go figure! It's all good though…

 

On the back side he wrote her a short comment. From what she tells me our SR is culture shocked with the instant transition to military life to say the least which is not uncommon but he's very optimistic. I’m certain that this status is shared by other SRs as well. By nature I’m a bit worried but we have faith that he’ll pull through and will continue to persevere. I know that all this will soon come to pass.

 

The form letter included a cover from the CO of RTC; our SR’s mailing address, ship and division number, graduation date and other important & helpful information for us parents. Looking forward to PIR on November 18, 2011...

 

 

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